It may be interesting to note that I have documentation suggesting those additional scenes found in the West German release were in fact re-shoots, scenes filmed and inserted specifically for the release, and there appears to have been a script and re-ordering of sequences also.
The mystery deepens.
Re-shoots by who? Where? Maybe by the American distributors of this āBlack Hellā version?
Yes, exactly that, the American distribution arm and the name Ken Dewey you mentioned previously. Iām not entirely sure why it appears to have been released in Germany (prior to America) with that being the caseā¦ but alas, thatās how the timespan at least appears to have played out.
Would it be possible for you to upload the version with the plantation scene? It also includes the scene with the white girl that is on the cover of the Bluray release? Strangely I believe that scene is omitted from the Bluray. I should be receiving a copy of the Korean LaserDisc release but have heard it just the American version which is suppose to be true of the Korean VHS as well.
Hi Paul,
Thank you for your message.
Do you have anything to offer in exchange at all?
Thanks for your reply, what kind of trade are you looking for?
The source of the cut is from a German VHS tape? It also has the scene with the white girl?
I have nothing in particular Iām looking for, I just like to know what is available and possibly of interest to my on-going research.
The German language version doesnāt contain further scenes of Madam Lalaurie, which I believe is who youāre referring to, but it is the version shown by Winding-Refn at BFI London (albeit it in German language) with footage of a plantation burning and Underground Railroad scenes not witnessed in other currently known versions.
From the documentation Iāve been able to source, these appear to be re-shoots, though it isnāt clear exactly why or when these were made. It appears currently that they were made after the original submission was made to Italian sensors, but before the re-edited Italian version, so it remains interesting none the less.
Will be awesome if you will be so kind to share with the community.
Since it was posted already, sure, why not.
Enjoy.
Awesome to see those scenes, thanks! Itās wild how much of the rest of the movie is cut.
If you know anyone with a VHSdecode system set up (like Iām planning on getting soon once the new MISRC is released) then the tape would definitely benefit from being digitized that way. VHSdecode copies the raw data from the tape, making it look significantly clearer and sharper than most people are familiar with when it comes to tapes.
Iām also interested in the VHS-Decode technology. Where are you located? If you build one, send me a private message.
while sorting through some very old DVDs burned between 2005 and 2008, I found a copy, but I canāt say whether itās a telecine, VHS rip, DVD rip, italian version (and which one) or foreign version, nor whether the disc works without jamming and can be ripped. Iāll update you in the next few days.
Once everything is in place, Iāll make an announcement here. Everything is ready except the MISRC v2.5 - which is set to come out within the next few months and produces the absolute highest video and audio quality, as well as making the entire process much easier. So until then, we all have to wait.
That said, Iām in Greece, more specifically Corfu - the part closest to Italy, so if anybody wants to send me a tape to digitize the shipping costs are probably going to be cheaper than usual.
Thank you for the information. Please keep me updated, as I am very interested. Thank you very much and have a great day.
I had the mediaset vs but at the time I deeply hated the movie and added to the fact it was a censored airing, did the rest: I deleted it a few days later. and having seen it 27 years ago, I canāt be any more specific about what youāre asking..
I rewatched the film again yesterday in a 135ā 18" version (I may be inaccurate about the secs but itās the directorās cut for sure, with the opening credits rolling after the first 16 minutes or so) and I can say that the scene with the queues of africans who are crippled and maimed due to self-inflicted wounds that have turned gangrenous is certainly present.
I donāt seem to recall the scene of the cotton fields on fire. Iām not sure how this elusive third version, which refn supposedly has, differs from the other two (are you aware of its running time?)
however, as far as we know, the filmakers were sued for plagiarism by the writer joseph chamberlain furnas. it was as a result of this that the original 119ā cut was withdrawn and subsequently re-released in a 136ā version under the revised title uncle tom.
could you be more specific on the exact collocation of the scene and about the nature of the whipping scene?