Messalina, Messalina! (Bruno Corbucci, 1977)

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MESSALINA, MESSALINA (3 SPEZZONI SU YOUTUBE):

ne ho due personali copie in digitale…una in italiano e una in tedesco…il film nn è che sia poi qst gran chè…se nn fosse x milian che regge la baracca…senza dimenticare Venticello…:wink:

qualcuno ha messo il film intero in 10 parti.

Io posseggo la copia italiana pessima e una spagnola (ottima) ma con l’audio solo spagnolo

Dato che siamo in un periodo di messa in onda di film con Milian,mi piacerebbe leggere altri commenti da chi lo ha visto,anche io ho una brutta copia in italiano ma che non ho ancora avuto coraggio di vedere per la scarsa qualità, soprattutto sarebbe interessante sapere il motivo per cui questo film è rimasto ancora nel limbo,chi ne avrà i diritti? forse non si riesce a trovare una copia buona da stampare?

a me il film in questione non e piaciuto granche , ma vale la visione per bombolo thomas milian ed anche per lino toffolo che a stracult gli hanno chiesto come mai sto film e raro , e lui non lo sapeva.

Dato che siamo in un periodo di messa in onda di film con Milian,mi piacerebbe leggere altri commenti da chi lo ha visto,anche io ho una brutta copia in italiano ma che non ho ancora avuto coraggio di vedere per la scarsa qualità, soprattutto sarebbe interessante sapere il motivo per cui questo film è rimasto ancora nel limbo,chi ne avrà i diritti? forse non si riesce a trovare una copia buona da stampare?

a me il film in questione non e piaciuto granche , ma vale la visione per bombolo thomas milian ed anche per lino toffolo che a stracult gli hanno chiesto come mai sto film e raro , e lui non lo sapeva.

ragazzi ma quando vedremo questo film in dvd o tv ??? dai quanti film inediti ci sn tanti fiaski a dvd e in tv …

Hanno aggiunto il film intero su Youtube, e il responsabile lo promuove per la vendita:

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OWLF9D2Rh4[/video]

Qualcuno ha preso Nocturno # 114? Tra i Misteriditalia parlavano proprio di questo film:

http://shop.nocturno.it/index.php/riviste-dossier/riviste-terza-serie/nocturno-114.html

Alcune info sul film dall’ormai defunto sito di Ranjit Sandhu, una vera autorità in materia di Brass:

Yes, Messalina, Messalina was originally intended to be a Felix production with a controlling investment by Penthouse, but that changed when things went wrong with Caligula. Largely because of Penthouse’s last-minute changes, the shooting schedule for Gore Vidal’s Caligula was delayed and extended. Originally shooting was to have begun on Wednesday, 27 July 1976, and continued through Monday, 15 November 1976, one day short of a 15-week shoot. As it turned out, though, shooting began half a week late, on Monday, 2 August 1976, and continued through Friday, 24 December 1976, a 21-week shoot, six weeks longer than planned. Felix was forced to make up the difference from its own coffers, which nearly depleted the company’s bank accounts. So Franco was looking forward to making this “B” movie about Messalina, Messalina, as he needed some extra income, and quickly.

While working on Caligula, Franco had become friends with Anneka di Lorenzo and decided that she should play the lead in this new movie because he felt that Guccione had cheated her with Caligula. He wanted to do something to set things right. He also recognized that Anneka, despite having no professional training, had a nice sparkle and would do well on camera.

In anticipation of the shoot, Franco held three of Caligula’s studio sets throughout January 1977, at $90/hour per set. Let us calculate: 20 business days × $90/hour × 3 sets × 8 hours per day = $43,200, and all for nothing. You see, at the very last minute, Penthouse said, in effect, “Sorry guy. We’re out of money. We can’t fund Messalina. You’re on your own. Sucks to be you.” Franco acted quickly. He offered this project for sale (probably for not much more than $43,200), and unloaded it onto Medusa Distribuzione.

Medusa was the brainchild of Felice Colaiacomo and Franco Poccioni, who had founded the company in 1964 and earned their fame and fortune by producing a number of films that monetized Edwige Fenech’s breasts. (People keep asking, and nobody ever answers. So here: ed-VEE-juh FEN-eck.) After that profitable beginning (still cherished by dévotées of 1960s/1970s Euroerotica), Medusa added a distribution wing and it was rather successful. Felice Colaiacomo was, I think, the “C” in “B.R.C.” Colaiacomo and Poccioni were undoubtedly thrilled when Franco offered them two of Caligula’s luxurious sets along with one slummy-looking one, together with the props and costumes at such a bargain price, and they put them to use without delay. They already had a regular cast and crew, including Tomás Milián and Franco “Bombolo” Lechner. How the producers managed to rope in Lino Toffolo and Vittorio Caprioli I do not know. To write a script with what I presume was a three-hour deadline, Colaiacomo and Poccioni had at their fingertips, and on payroll, Mario Amendola, who had previously written for the slapstick duo Franco and Ciccio.
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Amendola, of course, had scripted the abandoned Long Live Sandokan for the team of Rossellini/Warhol/Morrissey. (Mario Amendola was also the uncle of Ferruccio Amendola, who would later direct the dubbing of the Italian version of Caligula in 1979. Surely there’s a connection there, yes? Ferruccio also dubbed Tomás Milián out-of-sync in Messalina. Did Milián ever dub his own voice? I don’t know. Do you?) Who would direct this masterwork? Why, of course, someone else who was already on payroll: Bruno Corbucci, Sergio’s younger brother. Mario and Bruno had teamed frequently, and they churned out endless miles of forgettable films.

In the English dub, this film is unwatchable. In the original Italian, though, one can recognize that Lino Toffolo, Bombolo, and Raf Luca were first-tier performers. Their inimitable talents are entirely undetectable in the English edition. The script definitely set a very low ceiling on their portrayals, but they nonetheless come across quite nicely, along with the great Tomás Milián and Vittorio Caprioli. There are a few pleasant set pieces, such as the ballet at dinner, which is nicely shot, and the music by the De Angelis brothers is often quite lovely. Despite these few agreeable flourishes, though, this movie is execrable.

Messalina was released in Italy on 11 August 1977, and, at least in Italy, it miraculously turned a nice profit. How much? I don’t know. Does anybody know? It was also released in France and Montréal and possibly a few other places. In the US an abridgment went straight to video.

Incidentally, it seems that the masters of Messalina, Messalina have been drastically cut through the years. The original was 98 minutes (2,690 meters), including the part titles (“FINE PRIMO TEMPO” and “SECONDO TEMPO”). Most video editions run about 15 minutes shorter and have needless porn material added, which seems to consist of discards from some other wretched movie. If a complete version could be reassembled, it would probably have to derive largely from battered VHS tapes, as the negatives and master audiotapes surely no longer exist in their original form. Though Messalina, Messalina is a dreadful, well-nigh-unwatchable movie, I nonetheless dream of restoring it, because it shows a scale model for one of the Caligula sets, it shows another the Caligula sets from impressive angles that we’ve never seen elsewhere, and because it’s Anneka di Lorenzo’s only starring rôle. As painfully bad as this movie is, it’s of historical importance for those reasons. And despite my better judgment, I have somehow become rather fond of this abomination.

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